Retro Box Break: 1999 Collector's Edge Triumph Football

This box was the last unopened package from the basketball (storage) hoard.  Everything else was already opened when I got it all, except for that hideous box of 1999 UD hoops.  I figured there wasn't much of anything that could come out of it to make it worth selling, so I opened it and started the set myself.

They did that dumb thing that Topps likes to do - offer BONUS packs that are no different than the rest of the box.  Just say 11 packs please.  And it gets even dumber....

So when you actually open the box, there are eight packs stacked in pairs.  Not ten ~ eight.

So when you pull them out, there is a cardboard cover that says your bonus pack is underneath.

Well, which one is the bonus pack?  There are three of them.  It does make 10+1=11.  Dumb.

First card ripped - Robert Smith of the Vikings.

And the rest of the first pack.  Deion, Shannon Sharpe, and the ever-present Tim Couch in this year's stuff.  First insert - Heir Supply Kevin Faulk.

One of the later ones was a Vikings Hot Pack.  Three in one shot.  Randle was a total nut.  Love that guy.

After all is said and done, I got two of the Heir Supply inserts.  (I had a couple more of most of these in my extras, so got a little farther along on a lot of them.).

Some nice names on the Future Fantasy Teams.  All these inserts are very shiny in real life, but the rainbow effect is enhanced by the photos.

Only one regular Fantasy Team.  Mr. Smith.

These Pack Warriors are cool, and it's always nice to get Rice.

And don't you know, I got lucky enough to pull and autograph from the last pack or so.  I'm pretty sure ol' Brock is doing better at announcing than he did as a starter.  But very decent signature, and just cool to pull something of a hit at all.

Collation was pretty decent.  I think the handful of dupes I ended up with were all from my previous stock.   Had two extra Deions, but nothing else excessive.  Even had a double of at least one insert.  Let me know if you have any for trade.

I have yet to put this list on my wants page, but they are in the TCDB (under LoQtus).  Thanks for tuning in!  (Update: Needs are on my site now too)

Saved From The Hype Monster

Before I get into the case break, I want to share another box opening that I did a few weeks ago.  

This one was part of the hoard that I am liquidating which is composed of mostly basketball.  If you know me, you know that is the one sport I don't really delve into.  I have a small Michael Jordan collection, but that is all baseball.  I have a couple other sets in one binder, but that's it.

Anyway, this collection has a lot of wax boxes, but the majority of them have already been opened.  There are, however, a few that weren't.  One was this 1999-2000 Upper Deck flagship box.  It's the size of a hobby box of the time, but it's more like a blaster in that it's priced at $20 and only has eight packs of ten cards.

I looked up the odds on the Database and put them in my eBay description:

Possible Inserts:

Basketball Heroes: Julius Erving (1:23 packs)
Future Charge (1:8 packs)
     Quantum Silver (/100), Gold (/25)
Game Jersey swatch
     (Kidd, Shaq, Duncan, Barkley, Garnett, Stockton, Van Horn, Olajuwon, Pierce, and Jordan 1:2500 packs)
     (Kobe, Pippen, Hill, Payton, Carter, Miller, Iverson, Robinson, Walker, Malone 1:288 packs)
Game Jersey Patches (1:7500 packs), Super (/25)
History Class (1:11 packs)
     Quantum Silver (/100), Gold (/25)
Jamboree (1:11 packs)
     Quantum Silver (/100), Gold (/25)
MJ: A Higher Power (1:23 packs)
     Quantum Silver (/100), Gold (/25)
MJ's Final Floor relics (1:2500 packs)
Now Showing (1:4 packs)
     Quantum Silver (/100), Gold (/25)

Pulling a jersey would be epic!  Especially if it was Jordan, Shaq, or Bryant!  The big names garner three and four digit crooked number prices on eBay!  

So full hobby boxes go for $750 or so on there.  Since this was just about a third of a hobby box, I put mine at $275 initially, I think.

It sat.  There were some followers.  But it sat.  I got a low ball offer the first few days.  But then nothing.  I figured it might get snatched up quick.  Nope.

So I let it on there for about two months at a lower price.  After that, I figured it isn't going anywhere.  So I took it down.  Thought there might be someone who messages me wanting to get it after it was taken down, but no.

After all that, I couldn't take the suspense.  

I opened it.

I'm ultimately glad I didn't sell it to someone for $245!

I snapped photos as I went, so they're not quite in logical order.  Here's the box topper ad.

"7 Packs plus 1 extra pack".  No UD - It's eight freakin' packs, OK?  Stop it.

So this is a typical pack, from what I recall.  Eight silver foil base cards (as opposed to the bronze foil in baseball and football) and two inserts.

Some decent names in the base cards.  And there were inserts that contained Jordan, et al, or were all Jordan.

Other insert sets were rookie-centric, of course.

The Jordan on the left is the most valuable card found in this box.  It goes for about $15.  No jersey, sorry.  No blockbuster pulls here.

I should have expected the absence of a big hit.  But what I really didn't expect was the absolutely HORRIBLE collation of the base cards within this box.  As you can see here, there were TRIPLES of a few cards, and doubles of a significant number as well.  I've lost track of the exact numbers, but out of 80 cards, 12 were inserts, and only about 50 couple were unique base cards.  Over a third of them were dupes within the same box!

I wouldn't have been surprised if the buyer immediately asked for a refund after blowing almost $250 for this.  It's really only worth about a tenth of that.  

I probably should have taken pictures of all the inserts at the end, but they'll likely end up trade bait on the Database after a while anyway.

Let me know if you've ever pulled something awesome from a small box like this, or ended up with jack squat from one.

My House Is Almost Full

I did it again.

I let a month go by without posting a thing.  I've had a few ideas, and still haven't written my definitive grading rant, but never sat down to put anything on screen.  Granted, I've been sick off and on and had my third (although painless) kidney stone migration all in the last month.  

But that's not what I meant...

The CDs were already there

I brought in another cardboard hoard.  Filled another floor of my townhouse with cards.  Now two out of three floors are stacked to the gills.  I'll be on Hoarders soon.  OK, maybe not - I can still walk around them.  They were unloaded on the ground floor about a month ago, and I carried them all up two flights last weekend.

This collection was from a friend of a friend who pulled it out of a storage unit after a prolonged stay.  So they were a bit damp and musty.  I actually ended up wiping down all the boxes and much of the contents to keep my sinuses happy.  My mission is to sell off as much as possible. 

Most of what is here is basketball and football from roughly the mid to late 90's, with a small percentage just outside that range.  Brands include Hoops and Skybox basketball, Pacific, Playoff, and Collector's Edge for football, and Fleer, Topps, Ultra, Upper Deck, and Collector's Choice for both.  As you can see from the photos, there is a mix of white bulk boxes, wax boxes and miscellaneous accessories.  More on that in a minute.  There is a small amount of baseball - mostly junk wax, and a little hockey.  There was also some non-sport, including a big batch of GI Joe cards, but I gave that back to the owner to take to a comic shop.

I'm sure there are many readers who get and flip collections all the time, but this is really my first time with such volume and diversity.  The first hoard was all monster boxes, so the sorting was pretty much one step and then consolidating with my other extras.

This time, I've taken a multi-phase approach.  

1. Sort out all the mixed bulk by sport.  I've cleaned out several long white boxes already into monster boxes.

2. Among those, sort into "chunks" of the same set.  There are some sizable quantities of several products, and there is a lot of just extra singles.  I would grab big stacks and put those together and then after I've seen groups of other sets, I'd go back through and put those together.  For some, I could pull them out and start complete sets. 

3. Then I tried to find wax boxes of some of the sets that I already found stacks for.  There is one unusual thing about 90% of the wax boxes in this lot, though...

The wrappers are usually all there, but...

The packs have already been opened!  Typically, the inserts have been removed (sometimes in a stack inside the box).  So there was no fun ripping packs.  And there were only a few unopened items.

That's where I'm at right now.  I sold two factory sets and a group of unopened boxes on eBay.  I'm now trying to gather as many hand-collated sets (or series) for the next round of auctions.  I should be able to trade for any missing singles in most of these sets.

Step 4 is to go through a couple hundred top-loadered cards that had been set aside as more valuable.  A few of those will go back into their sets, and the rest will either go on COMC or get sold to my local shop if he'll take them.  Depends on how many are for sale online.

As I mentioned, these have been in storage for a long time, so you know what the danger is...

Bricking!

Amazingly, the vast majority of these cards have popped apart with almost no visible damage.  I've got a 400 count box of snowy or bent cards bound for recycling, but that's it so far.

There are a few binders with some sets and inserts in various stages of completion.  That makes it a little nicer.

There's gonna be a lot of bulk extras at the end.  If you're looking for any basketball or football from the 90's, get your lists together.  I'll be offering up a lot of this for trade later - I don't do basketball, though I'm tempted to build a couple sets that I've been working on.

I will also give my readers a chance to snag some of the hand collated sets/series very soon.  A lot of them go for $15-20 on eBay, so it's easier and more fun to move them from here.

Ultimately, I will have a ton of bulk commons etc. to add to my TCDB For Sale/Trades as well.  I haven't even finished entering the extra stuff that I had before, so that may take a while.

Stay tuned!